elderberry, elderflower, and everything in between
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Permalink Reply by Daniel Warfield on June 6, 2012 at 1:14pm Thanks again Mark, we'll see how these wild plants progress this summer.
Permalink Reply by Dee Bray-Ware on June 7, 2012 at 11:42am With using the willow water you can let the willow branches sit in water just over night - then, you can also just leave the elder branches stay in the willow water until they sprout, then plant out -
Try different techniques and see which works best for you -
Dee
Va Herbalist
Permalink Reply by Daniel Warfield on June 7, 2012 at 1:28pm Dee and Mark,
So let me get this straight (I am very much a novice and learning how to get started); So I should be able to go out in the late winter/early spring of 2013 and make my elder cuttings or root digging/start, put the cuttings in a bucket of willow water until the elder starts to sprout, plant the cuttings in a non-permanent location, let the root system develop over the summer of 2013 and through the fall of 2013 until dormancy sets in during 2013/2014 winter, at which time I should remove the cuttings and "re-plant" into a permanent orchard type setting the following spring of 2014... is this correct?
If I sprout the cuttings in the spring of 2013 in a bucket of willow water, why can't I go straight to planting the cutting in my newly tilled and prepared orchard in the spring of 2013? Won't the root system develop in the new orchard enough to sustain the plant in the first year?
It sounds as though there is a need for a "development" year before going to the orchard??? Or am I misreading your posts?
Thanks to you both for your help.
Dan
Permalink Reply by Bonnie Boggs on August 6, 2012 at 1:29pm I am so worried about my elders. I think I have lost one and another is not looking good. Last year was their first growing year and they looked great and put on many branches and leaves. Then last fall they started showing brown edges around the leaves. The became more and more evident and then this spring one looked dead. I left it and finally a small growth came from the root. It grew to about 2 feet and then the same brown edged leaf started again. Now that plant is brown and I don't see any new growth or leaves at all. The plant next to it, which was 2-3 times larger is now doing the same thing. I have fertilized twice but to no avail. What can I do?
Permalink Reply by Mark T on August 6, 2012 at 1:42pm Daniel, I actually just dug the runners and trimmed and planted those with good luck. However, I also noticed that elder cuttings seemed to actually stat rooting. The willow water should help quite a lot, but I suspect (haven't tied it this year, but will next) that you should be able to root elder cuttings using a method similar to rooting grape cuttings. If anything, because of Elder's propensity to *run* and layer, that it may be even easier to propagate than grape cuttings.
Bonnie. You might have some kind of fungal issue going on. a copper based spray might help with that if it is indeed the problem. If it is more along the lines of a blight, like those that affect tomato plants, oxidate might be beneficial. Both are available in certified organic sprays, I believe. I'm certainly not a professional wrt diagnosing plant diseases tho.
Permalink Reply by Mark T on August 6, 2012 at 1:43pm
Dee Bray-Ware said:
With using the willow water you can let the willow branches sit in water just over night - then, you can also just leave the elder branches stay in the willow water until they sprout, then plant out -
Try different techniques and see which works best for you -
Dee
Va Herbalist
Dee isn't Willow Water amazing stuff? I almost wonder if willow water is even necessary for rooting elder tho :)
Permalink Reply by Mark T on August 6, 2012 at 1:44pm
Mark T said:
Dee Bray-Ware said:With using the willow water you can let the willow branches sit in water just over night - then, you can also just leave the elder branches stay in the willow water until they sprout, then plant out -
Try different techniques and see which works best for you -
Dee
Va Herbalist
Dee isn't Willow Water amazing stuff? I almost wonder if willow water is even necessary for rooting elder tho :)
And don't forget the kelp concentrate as a root stimulato as well!
Permalink Reply by Ulrich Young on August 12, 2012 at 7:43pm
Bonnie Boggs said:
I am so worried about my elders. I think I have lost one and another is not looking good. Last year was their first growing year and they looked great and put on many branches and leaves. Then last fall they started showing brown edges around the leaves. The became more and more evident and then this spring one looked dead. I left it and finally a small growth came from the root. It grew to about 2 feet and then the same brown edged leaf started again. Now that plant is brown and I don't see any new growth or leaves at all. The plant next to it, which was 2-3 times larger is now doing the same thing. I have fertilized twice but to no avail. What can I do?
Bonnie, I would dig the dead plant up and look for borers inside the main stem. I have observed several borers in years past that kill either the fruiting clusters or the large stems. It really sounds more like a fungus problem but if the plants dead you might as well look at the roots/stems for any problems.Also look for signs of rodents eating the roots. Are you using well water that might have high boron or other mineral content? Is the growing site to wet or other condition? What was leaf color and did it die with leaves attached ? How much fertilizer did you use and what kind?
Look close and let me know what you find. Ulrich
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